Can anyone tell me if this is a 23/24 inch set?

[Captain Video]

Hi everyone. Up for auction on a local web site here in Brazil is this 1953/1954 Philco "Golden Grid" set. The seller is not sure if it is a 21 inch or a 23/24 inch model. If it is a 23/24 inch it is pretty rare down here, because the vast majority of TVs that were sold here in the 1950's were the 17 and 21 inch models. Seller says that on the back is written "model 27b 7300 code 157" .

[fsjonsey]

Looks like someone lopped the neck off of the CRT. Falling painting perhaps?

[Dave A]

Keep looking. The CRT in this is destroyed.

Dave A

[Captain Video]

The CRT is broken, the seller himself said so. Anyway, if I can make him sell this TV REAL CHEAP I think it might be worth the trouble of trying to get a replacement CRT. I only need to know if it is a 23/24 inch set, to find out what CRT it uses and if it is really worth all the trouble.

[Eric H]

I'm guessing a 24" based on a visual comparison to my 21"
http://www.vintagetvsets.com/philcof.htm

Notice the size of the tube in relation to the Golden Grid badge, also the knobs (and therfore the two chassis) are spaced much farther apart.

the 24" tube will be several times harder to find than a 21" though!

[Captain Video]

Yeah, you are right, this thing is really a 24" !

I am kind of surprised, I never imagined that 24" were sold here BEFORE 1958.
In '58 - when the 110º CRT was introduced - GE started manufactiring 24" sets here, I even have some magazines advertising those sets. Before that year, I only saw 21 inch and below, and all old advertising I found, both on magazines and newspapers only promoted 21 inch, 17 inch and smaller sizes, never 24 inch.

Well, maybe this thing belonged to some "deep pockets" guy, who traveled to the United States in 1953 or 1954 and brought it here... but he MUST have traveled by ship, I think it might have been IMPOSSIBLE to bring such a heavy beast on the fragile commercial airplanes of that period!

From time to time, those "rich people's sets" appear here, revealing some surprises that should not be here. A few years ago, they put for sale all the contents of the mansion of the family who owned the biggest toy factory of the country ( a toy factory that today, thanks to the chinese is a shadow of what it once was ). Inside the house, was found a 1954 Dumont TV set, that they bought brand new in a trip to the USA. Dumont NEVER had import representatives, much least a factory here, so it was quite a found.

There are three color roundies here, that I know are still intact and on the hands of qualified people; seems that is all that is left from the 300 imported in 1963. I really don't have any hope that others might appear.

I will see if I can make the guy sell the TV cheap, I don't know, probably it would be a pain in the neck, to put my hands in such a set, a set with a hard-to-find CRT, but this vintage TV addiction is something really serious... I wish I could put my hands on all 1950's and some 1960's TV sets that I see around here... luckily, there are not too much of them!!!

[Don Lindsly]

Looks like a 27 inch to me.

[Steve K]

You're correct Don, according to the 1953 Philco catalog it is a Model 2750 27" set that retailed for $750.

Steve

[Sandy G]

Finding a CRT for that bad boy will be a real challenge...21, 24 or 27, they ain't exactly common anymore...

[MRX37]

Hm..... I have an old Sears Silvertone I found which I THINK has a 23 inch tube...

[Boobtubeman]

Yep... that CRT is deffinately a victim of launch syndrome...

Someone gave that neck a whack and failed to launch the gun through the screen.....

Steve

[Giulio Maiocco]

Hello,

I have both a 24" and a 27" TV sets from 1957 and 1954, I assure you that they are huge, to say the least.

I accidentally broke the neck on the 27" (at least it was on it's last leg about emission!), but it was very hard to find a replacement, it took me about a year and half, until a good friend of mine found on the we-all-know-the-auction-site-I'm-referring-about another 27" set with a good CRT, but a very rusty chassis and a damaged cabinet, so I felt not too bad parting it. Just for reference, the 27RP4 I found measure 800 on a 1000 scale on my B&K 465 (or 467??), so I would expect a good image once the chassis is freed from all the problems it has at the moment.

Just for reference, my 27" is quite particular, especially here in Italy, having 2 Hor output tubes (6AV5, at the moment I' using 6BQ6's as I haven't spare 6AV5's, I have to find some new Sylvania with the "elliptical" plate, as I like them much more than the newer ones) and 2 dampers (6W4), naturally it also has the twin 5U4G rectifiers on the power supply chassis and a wired remote control. It weights 95Kg

Sorry for the long post and probably for the hijack of this thread

Cheers

Giulio Maiocco

[sean]

I had a 24B6300 Philco a few years ago. It was a 1954 model 24" set with doors. I had found an ad for it that mentioned that Philco had sets with up to 27" tubes but never could find a reference to any 27Bxxxx sets anywhere. This is the first time I have seen one of the 27" sets. There is a copy of the dealer brochure showing both the 6300 and 7300 sets at the TV History website: http://www.tvhistory.tv/1954-Philco-Brochure2.jpg

I had restored the 24" set and it was a great performer. It had the built-in UHF tuner that I am guessing was installed by the dealer. The model on the set was 24B6300 with a U added at the end in pencil. All of the references to the UHF sets had the U after the B in the model number (i.e. 24BU6300).

[Carmine]

I don't know which thing I'd want to see first in Brazil... The old TVs, the old cars, or the young women...

OK, I know

[Captain Video]

Hehehe... go for the young women first. The old cars and vintage TVs ( except for some very specific models that only existed here ) in general, you can see all of them in the USA and some european countries. But the women... hehehe... our women are UNIQUE I can assure you!