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Old 01-21-2011, 01:57 PM
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Philco Model 22B4001 Found

Lately mid 50's B&W sets have been coming out of the woodwork around here. Just got a call from the local recycle plant manager. He knew I was looking for a few nice old TV's. I hope he doesn't mind me posting these pictures. Something tells me this one was in pristine condition before it got tossed around on the way to the recycler.

I'm not particularly attracted to it, but would be a shame to see it torn up.

Anybody know if this is an AC transformer powered set?

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Old 01-21-2011, 02:11 PM
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Great save, I have similar set with a 17" tube, I don't think it's a full transformer set but I seem to recall it had a transformer only for the heaters possibly?

Philco had a zillion different chassis in those sets.
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:42 PM
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Hi Eric,

Well I haven’t exactly saved it, yet. I made them an offer of $10, waiting to hear back. I'm a pretty thrifty TV shopper. I was told they tried selling it on ebay about a year and a half ago, no takers.

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Old 01-21-2011, 09:44 PM
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I think your offer is fair. I'd probably top out at $15. These can be good playing sets.

Odd look to that crt-shaped more like something from the late 60s/early 70s.
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:13 PM
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Anyone know what CRT is used in this set?

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Old 01-22-2011, 10:25 AM
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Anyone know what CRT is used in this set?

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The CRT is either a 21ZP4 or a 20CP4.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:15 AM
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That is a beautiful set. Is the cabinet wood or metal? I love Philco products. I only have two of their radios, a 37-610 tombstone and a Bakelite PT-2 or whatever the post war model number of that is. There are several Philco models I like but have never seen that one before. Looks like a good restoration candidate.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:13 PM
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The guy that called me said the cabinet was wood. Almost looks like a painted finish in the pictures, though. Possibly the sides are even masonite material. I find the gold surround overpowering to the basic style of the cabinet, but that's just personal opinion.

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Old 01-22-2011, 01:28 PM
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It seems to have provision for four different types of antenna terminals. Anyone
knows what this would mean?
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:31 PM
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I have never seen the gold bezel on these early (51-54) Philcos before, always a pale grey-green that matches the phosphor color pretty well....perhaps the set was upgraded to a larger tube at some time, and a new bezel was installed, or perhaps a little spray can "customizing" ?
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Edit add; The extra holes in the back are for the optional UHF tuner that could be installed in the center of the control panel. It could be configured to use a separate antenna, or leads could be be connected so that one antenna could be switched to either tuner. Leads for that switching were brought out to the back of the set, for convience of the antenna installer. Also the leads from the built-in antenna usually came out through one of the holes....lots of connections!
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:59 PM
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My wife went and picked the TV up for me cus it was only 5 or so miles down the road from where she works. The guy had agreed to my $10 offer. Anyhow...it turns out she felt sorry for the guy and gave him a $5 tip. Silly girls. So now I'm into this TV for 50% over budget.

The insides look pretty clean. The Philco 21WP4 tests strong.

I seriously don't need this one, so if someone is within driving distance you're more than welcome to it. I pretty much had to take it or it was going to get chopped up.

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Old 01-26-2011, 08:41 PM
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OK, now I can say "Great save!"
A good 21WP4 is worth the $15 alone.
The set looks to be in very good shape, I'm pretty sure the bezel's original, the decals wouldn't be there if the cabinet had been cut for a larger tube.
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