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Old 05-14-2012, 06:37 PM
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Well, I came home with a sack of powerpole connectors, which are even thicker than the Molex type.



The parts store had nothing smaller. The only alternative was spade-type connectors, which are just too danged ugly.

I'm starting to wonder if this is a bad idea . . . .

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Old 05-14-2012, 07:29 PM
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maybe stagger cutting so they dont line up, I can see how its going to get kinda messy with a lot of connectors, considering the space limits. You need to do a lot of planning before making the 1st cut.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
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Yah, I'll stagger them for sure. For some of the WW pins, I may remove the old lead and install a new one made of more flexible multi-stranded wire. That will be the short pigtail to which the other long end connects.

Maybe I'll sit down and draw a diagram, as a way of thinking through the whole layout wire by wire.

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Old 05-14-2012, 09:13 PM
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yep. maybe even just tape them in place to see how its all going to work out. This looks like one of those deals where you really want it all figured out before starting. Of course if it does work out, I am sure there will be a lot of predicta owners that would follow your approach.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:22 PM
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I'm starting to wonder if this is a bad idea . . . .
Ugh. The powerpole connectors look too big. I laid out several next to the terminals where they'll connect:



Picture each one of those with a 1-2 inch pigtail to the board and a longer lead trailing above or alongside. Seems like a real mess to me.

By loosening the ground stakes and dismounting the rear pots and range switch, I was able to lift the board a bit, perhaps enough to install the couplate. If that works, I'll reconnect the grounds and see what happens.

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Old 05-15-2012, 01:48 PM
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yep that would get messy oh well maybe someday somebody will find a micro connector that is no larger than the wire itself. Too bad, it would be nice to be able to easily separate the pcb for easy access.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:27 PM
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Well, the Molex female terminals are about as small as anything can get and still allow you to solder onto it. A few of the board's WW pins would be easy, since the old leads have enough slack to simply attach a Molex terminal on the end. A number of leads are tight and would need lengthening. There are at least three WW pins with two wires attached.

Meanwhile, the new K7 couplate works fine, but the height is still deficient.



The 400V boost voltage measures 400V on the money. On the 6DR7 vertical tube, the voltage at the oscillator grid is low (-.03V rather than -3.5V) and the plate is somewhat high (155V rather than 115V).

As with the horizontal section, caps & resistors around that tube have already been replaced, which leaves couplates K4 and K5, I guess.

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Old 05-22-2012, 01:27 PM
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I've been puttering around with the height problem, still seeking a solution. Height is 1/3 of the screen at most, and linearity is poor.

I wonder if the vertical output transformer could be funky?

I have subbed known-good 6DR7 vertical tubes, replaced the K4 and K5 vertical couplates, checked or replaced Rs and Cs around that tube. The pots for hold, height, and linearity are working and have the right resistance. The 400V boost voltage is normal. Here's a piece of the Sams schematic:



Voltages are close except that pin 7 (grid) is only -0.5 volts rather than -3.5. Resistance of the vertical windings on the yoke looks normal.

On the vertical output transformer, the secondary measures 2.6 ohms (expected 2.5) but the primary measures 410 ohms where it should be 425 (or 430 in the Philco schematic).

Could a few shorted turns in the output transformer account for the lack of height? I feel like I've eliminated just about everything else. This problem existed before I did any restoration.

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