1950s Magnificent Magnavox HI-FI Console issues

[WISCOJIM]

You don't need any "SPECIAL" tool for those. All you need is an expanded needle-nose pliers to turn the nut.

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[rca2000]

I said "properly" remove...of course...WE have to come up with ways to "Macgyver" them out...

[Captainclock]

That's exactly why I had asked if anyone knew of a way to get the knob loose because it DOES have the hex nut installed inverted with the outside of the nut facing into the wood of the cabinet and no way to remove it without damaging the cabinet which is still in pristine condition. one thing I noticed is that the panels on top of the radio for covering the record player are pieces of glass that are reverse painted to look like wood which I thought was weird and kind of unusual.
Also that empty "tube socket" is actually the power supply plug for the tuner section of the radio.
Also I was able to manhandle the record player out of the cabinet a little bit to get a view of the bottom side of the record player mechanism and sure enough it looks like it will be a nightmare to try and service it!
Also nobody answered my question about how to deal with the broken bass control pot.

[Captainclock]

Originally Posted by WISCOJIM

You don't need any "SPECIAL" tool for those. All you need is an expanded needle-nose pliers to turn the nut.

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I don't have a pair of needle nose pliers that would work with removing this nut. all I have are the really fine needle nose pliers that are only good for removing small nuts and bolts that are about 1/4" or smaller not ones that are 5/8" in diameter or larger.

EDIT: I think they have those nuts glued into place because I tried both a screwdriver and a pair of needle nose pliers and the nut wouldn't budge I think there has to be a way to remove the pot from the back side of the panel without damaging the pot.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Captainclock

I don't have a pair of needle nose pliers that would work with removing this nut. all I have are the really fine needle nose pliers that are only good for removing small nuts and bolts that are about 1/4" or smaller not ones that are 5/8" in diameter or larger.

EDIT: I think they have those nuts glued into place because I tried both a screwdriver and a pair of needle nose pliers and the nut wouldn't budge I think there has to be a way to remove the pot from the back side of the panel without damaging the pot.

I worked on a Magnavox stereo that was built in 1974, that had those inverted palnuts. The assembler at the factory, tightened the nuts, so tight that there was NO WAY IN H*LL, that I could remove them, without the proper tool.

[Captainclock]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I worked on a Magnavox stereo that was built in 1974, that had those inverted palnuts. The assembler at the factory, tightened the nuts, so tight that there was NO WAY IN H*LL, that I could remove them, without the proper tool.

That's what I was thinking, so I'll probably just have to work on it the best I can with it just flipped over inside the cabinet.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Captainclock

That's what I was thinking, so I'll probably just have to work on it the best I can with it just flipped over inside the cabinet.

I even went to the local Magnavox dealer to rent one. There was an old sourpuss technician, that had one. I offered to post a $20.00 deposit on it. No dice! I tried ordering one, through them, NLA. If it was available, it was something like $4.00, made special by Xcelite, for Magnavox. Not available through Xcelite.
I can see why the guy was that way, working on Mvx TV's for forty years.

[jr_tech]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I even went to the local Magnavox dealer to rent one. There was an old sourpuss technician, that had one. I offered to post a $20.00 deposit on it. No dice! I tried ordering one, through them, NLA. If it was available, it was something like $4.00, made special by Xcelite, for Magnavox. Not available through Xcelite.
I can see why the guy was that way, working on Mvx TV's for forty years.

I think that it should be fairly easy to fabricate a suitable tool by grinding flats on the outside of a smaller socket or Xcelite driver. Likely a 1/2" size would work fine. I made this example in about 5 minutes... wrong size, but it shows what could be done.

jr

[Captainclock]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

I think that it should be fairly easy to fabricate a suitable tool by grinding flats on the outside of a smaller socket or Xcelite driver. Likely a 1/2" size would work fine. I made this example in about 5 minutes... wrong size, but it shows what could be done.

jr

the only problem with that is that I don't have access to an angle grinder or a bench grinder, my dad has one of each but I think he would need to know the specs first before he could do anything, like what size of socket I need and where to grind down the socket.

UPDATE: I did manage to get the switch out of the cabinet, but I had to use a large screwdriver that I wedged into the support posts of the switch and gently loosen the switch that way and then loosen the switch by hand until I could push the switch and the nut out of its mount and then I took some pliers and then loosened the nut the rest of the way and then popped the switch out of the cabinet.

Also does anyone have a spare speed changer switch for a late 1950s Magnavox/Collaro Turntable? It looks something like what's pictured in the photo posted below, the one on the record player I'm working on is stripped out and also the retention spring is broken so because of that the knob just spins around freely on the speed changer mechanism, it got stripped out because I was trying to operate the speed change mechanism while it was seized up and so because of that the resistance from the speed changing mechanism was enough to strip the knob out and break the retention spring. Just send me a PM on here if you think you might have a spare knob I could have.

Thanks!

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

I think that it should be fairly easy to fabricate a suitable tool by grinding flats on the outside of a smaller socket or Xcelite driver. Likely a 1/2" size would work fine. I made this example in about 5 minutes... wrong size, but it shows what could be done.

jr

I did the same thing. I ground the down the flats on a 5/16-18 nut and used my 1/2 socket, no luck. Naturally, the ID of the nut, had to be drilled out to accept the control bushing.
I didn't think, Magnavox used that arrangement that early. The HI-FI in question appears to be a 1957 model.