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Telecolor 3007 · #**586** 09-25-2005, 04:19 PM

My 1958 Soviet made "Rekord":
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48335

Big Dave · #**587** 10-02-2005, 06:43 PM

Got this Philco recently.

Charlie · #**588** 10-02-2005, 11:13 PM

Neat looking style! I guess it probably had legs originally?

Big Dave · #**589** 10-02-2005, 11:50 PM

It does. I am using it as a tabletop due to lack of space. I have the legs and crossbrace. The CRT checked good. I also have the owners manual and a factory schematic. This is most likely the next on the list.

bgadow · #**590** 10-08-2005, 09:34 PM

My Porthole!

This was actually the first "small-screen" tv I owned. Found it in an antique store in Baltimore, sometime in 1991-92. For me, at the time, this was a major find, though my then-girlfriend didn't think too highly of me spending 85 bucks on this instead of her! As found it had audio but I could never get any sign of hv. Back then all I knew was tube swapping & that didn't help. Later I handed it to a tv repairman who said he would check it out, but he never did. By the time I got it back, about 5 years ago, I was more adept at fixing things like this. I finally got swapping caps & resistors (and there were a ton of bad resistors in this machine) & finally got a raster, but this coincided with a loss of audio. When I later tried again I had lost the raster again! That was a year ago. Time to try again. I found that I had hv but on the low side (7900v) & I just could not find a reason for it. It ended up being really dumb. Awhile back I had put the tube tester on it & found the bottle very weak but after rejuvanation it worked fine. Well, when I tested it again it was back very weak. I ran it for a little while at 8v and when I dropped it back to 6 it was worse than before. The tube is just shot. I was able to finally get a dim raster, visible only with the lights off. Well, I had never reinstalled the 10BP4 in my 721TS (another long term project) so I popped that in-and had a perfect raster in short order! The sound still wasn't working but that got better with a screwdriver alignment & cleaning the volume pot. Its great to finally see (and hear) this Zenith. Now I need to find the contrast/volume knobs (I thought I had them when I got the set, which means they could be anywhere around here) and I need to find another crt to put in the RCA.

FYI, this is model 28T925R, chassis 28F20, from 1949. I need to do some research and see which President this one was named after! (that seems to be what all the porthole models were named after)

Steve D. · #**591** 10-08-2005, 11:09 PM

Bryan,

I think this is your porthole set in the lower right of this ad. Sorry no model name.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/a...845-72dpi.jpeg

And, the top of this ad:

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/a...846-72dpi.jpeg

-Steve D.

G.B. · #**592** 10-09-2005, 12:39 AM

Good Show of TV's & more . plase keep them coming....

Giulio Maiocco · #**593** 10-09-2005, 09:48 AM

Hi

Here are two photos of my 17" Radioson (Magnadyne) Italian TV from 1959

BTW, I know someone in this forum likes very much projection TV's.. Well, I have one in working conditions, it's a Saba employing 23 tubes and a MW6/2 CRT.. Just let me know if you like to see some photos of it, just remember that I can supply photos of the cabinet, but without the projected image, because I haven't an antenna in my garage and I have to move it indoor to have a good picture

bgadow · #**594** 10-10-2005, 02:31 PM

A real variety here, thats for sure!

I dug in the service manual I have & found that my porthole is the Mayflower, for what it's worth.

polaraman · #**595** 10-10-2005, 05:18 PM

Picked uo this nice Admiral yesterday. As you can see it has a record player and no radio. The record player chassis is separate from the Tv chassis. Tv chassis is 20E6C and the stereo record chassis is 4C3. It is in really nice shape. I have to take it apart to clean out the mouse nest. I think I got a good deal for my $25.00.

polaraman

Steve D. · #**596** 10-10-2005, 05:34 PM

That's an elegant set Polaraman. I think that's the first tv-record player combo w/o a radio I have ever seen.

-Steve D.

polaraman · #**597** 10-10-2005, 09:04 PM

I liked the set because it was not the normal square box. The set is an all wood cabinet. It is very heavy. No oil board on this set. It must sound good because of the 4 speakers. I looked it up in SAMS and it is number 431. That would put it at 1958 or 1959.

There were two televisions for sale at the antiques show. The other was a wood cabinet 10" Admiral. They wanted $70.00 for it. It was missing the knobs and the front bezel was missing the control cover. I did not feel it was worth that much.

polaraman

Adam · #**598** 10-11-2005, 10:31 PM

I just found this site, and I am so happy to find out I am not the only man on earth who collects and restores old televisions. I started about seven years ago when apartment life no longer allowed the space for working on old cars. Since then I have recieved many an odd look when asking for tubes or 400 volt electrolitic capacitors in electronic stores, as well as from my friends who can't believe that I actually prefer to watch a black and white set. Here are some of the details of my older B&W sets.
- two 1959 magnavox consoles, The first was my great grandmother's set, the first tv I ever fixed. I had to replace most of the tubes and capacitors, and there was an unuasually large number of burnt out resistors in the horiz sync circuit. The AM/FM radio also works well, as well as the record player after I took parts from the other magnavox to make one good one. The CRT is a bit weak, and I am often tempted to swap CRT's in these sets as this one has the nicer cabinet while the other one has a newer CRT (I think it was replaced some time in the 70's). The second 59 magnavox console I got last summer. This set was completely workrd through sometime in the 70's (judging by the writing on the replacment tubes). It has a new CRT, vert output transformer, yoke, etc. It worked as I got it with the exception of a bad power cord and a loose wire on one of the speakers. The record player was broken, as I stated before, I now have a record player in it I took out of a 65 mag. color console I junked a while back. (It dosen't work that well either, I stink at repairing record players)
- A 1959 Olympic console set. This one was out in the rain a long time and the cabinet was really awful. I painted it green, which I have been regretting for some time. This set required a complete recapping as well as alot of new tubes.(I think someone tried to turn it on when it was all wet. But it works well now(except for the speakers which need replacing, water damage again). The AM radio works ok, the record player motor was completely fried, so I put an old Zenith cobramatic in it, which works except for the record changing.
- A 1959 Stetchel Carlson. This set took me over a year to finally fix. The power supply wasn't putting out enough juice to get enough vertical size even after I had changed the electrolitics and the two diodes (both of which were bad) so I had removed the two resistors in it first thing as I began working on it. Afterwards there was a 'wavyness' on the right side of the screen and it would not hold vert. sync for long. Convinsed this was actually in the vert. circuit I replaced every component in it. I finally got a scope, and when I looked at the power supply I could see that it wasn't completely filtered, so I put the resistors back in and found that to be the source of my problems. I still could not get enough vert. size though. The culprit turned out to be a 22k resistor inside the tuner connected to chassis ground which was supposed to be 220k. Somebody had messed around with the tuner, the fine tuning disks were bent, and the coil to which the antenna leads was broken in a couple of places. I did what I could with it, and the set works good now (the power output was still a little low so I just reduced the value of the resistor feeding power to the vertical a little to get full vertical size), except for some slight buzzing in the audio. At the moment I am attributing it to the messed-up tuner.
- A 1961 Zenith. This set has a 23" B&W tube with the outer glass glued to the CRT. This is a great set, these early Zeniths are really a pleasure to work on. This set had a burnt out resististor in a section of the power supply that seems to only feed the video output portion of the chassis, it took a few other resistors with it. But the only other problem with this set was a slightly weak horiz. oscillator tube. I recapped the sync circuits, as I planned to watch this set often and didn't want to keep having to take it apart.
- 1963 Admiral console (record player only, broken record player. aargh...)
Bad caps in the vertical were my only difficulty here, could use allignment upper vhf stations are just out of reach can get picture only with the fine tuning all the way to one side)
- 1956 Philco metal cabinet, the set I am currently working on. This set had weak IF tubes and bad tubes in the tuner. The electrolitics are bad, but I am having difficulty finding new ones as the only store in the area that carries them just closed. Anybody know of a good source for these somewhere around LA?
- sets with bad flybacks: 1958 Hoffman, 1956 Bendix
- sets I haven't started working on yet: 55 Westinghouse, 57 Emerson
I also have a number of late 60's early 70's B&W "portable" tube sets and hybrids, and some tube color sets
I hope somebody enjoyed reading about my televisions, I can look around to see if I have any pictures. Again, I am so happy to know there are other people as crazy about preserving old tv's as I am.

G.B. · #**599** 10-11-2005, 11:16 PM

Adam, I don't see any pictures?

Adam · #**600** 10-12-2005, 12:15 AM

I think the only pictures I have are sitting on an undeveloped roll of film in a bucket of power transformers in my closet. If this is correct (I don't know as I am not home now) I may have some in a few days. I don't actually have an operational camera.