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Old 06-12-2012, 08:32 PM
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C'mon guys, let's NOT get "Political" 'round here...
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:03 PM
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Guys, I WASN'T KIDDING w/my post above...You wanna argue politics, go to Political Chat, & have at it. Next one that says anything political, is gonna get some time on the bench. I'm SERIOUS. That's ENOUGH about this.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:50 PM
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Guys, I WASN'T KIDDING w/my post above...You wanna argue politics, go to Political Chat, & have at it. Next one that says anything political, is gonna get some time on the bench. I'm SERIOUS. That's ENOUGH about this.
Opps! I did not see your post until just now I'll remove mine if asked.
Sorry!

Edit:I don't see a political chat section here. What are you making reference to?
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:01 PM
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Opps! I did not see your post until just now I'll remove mine if asked.
Sorry!

Edit:I don't see a political chat section here. What are you making reference to?
Tom, go over to AK, find the thread and wish our good freind Sandy a happy birthday
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:16 PM
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Tom, go over to AK, find the thread and wish our good freind Sandy a happy birthday
I don't have an account on AK, and have not had enough reason/motivation to do so yet.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:40 PM
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I agree with Sandy, Although it's a good conversation, it should continue there if it's gonna keep going in this direction.
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That PACKARD BELL 2118 a roundie?
I have the older 2116 as in my avatar and its a 53 also.. In fact, my SAMS covers the 2117, didnt know there was still roundies after my rectangular model. Hmmmmmm

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:50 PM
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That PACKARD BELL 2118 a roundie?
I have the older 2116 as in my avatar and its a 53 also.. In fact, my SAMS covers the 2117, didnt know there was still roundies after my rectangular model. Hmmmmmm

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Yep! here is a pix from one of the inside pages of Photofact #204 - 7:



CRT is listed as a 24BP4.

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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Hehehehe yep, ive seen that chassis before!!

Mine uses a 17HP4

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Old 06-13-2012, 12:27 AM
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Hehehehe yep, ive seen that chassis before!!

Mine uses a 17HP4

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Cool! I looked at the schematic halfway expecting to see a voltage doubler in the HV for the larger CRT, but it has just a single 1B3 supplying only 14.5 kV to the CRT... bet it wasn't super bright!

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Old 06-15-2012, 08:47 AM
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Cool! I looked at the schematic halfway expecting to see a voltage doubler in the HV for the larger CRT, but it has just a single 1B3 supplying only 14.5 kV to the CRT... bet it wasn't super bright!

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14.5 kV of "picture power" on a big tube would not be very bright

I wonder what the Zenith's voltage isas they were traditionally judged as having the best (brightest?) pictures

Checking back on my Tab Books color TV service manuals for the different makes from 1964-1975, I noticed the HIGHEST - 29 kV was
in Zenith sets, specifically the 1973-75 CCII 25DC57, 25EC58 etc

PS Happy Birthday Sandy G, My Grandad's B-day was today he'd be 102 and probably on his 5th Zenith!
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:17 AM
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jr. tech, that PacBell has the same more modern "flavor" as the big Zenith. With it turned off, at first glance you could take it for a color roundie of the sixties or seventies.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:57 PM
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jr. tech, that PacBell has the same more modern "flavor" as the big Zenith. With it turned off, at first glance you could take it for a color roundie of the sixties or seventies.
Interesting perspective!
I guess that if I saw the two sets side-by-side, I would judge the Zenith to be a later model (perhaps as late as the late 50s) and the Packard Bell to be earlier (like '51 or '52)... If brand names were not visible, I would likely conclude that they represented samples over a time spread from the same manufacturer. I might mistake the Packard Bell for a CTC-4 clone, but not anything much later than that.
I agree that both sets very much exhibit a certain "timeless elegance", but the mahogany finish shouts "50s" to me.

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Old 06-13-2012, 05:40 PM
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Right about mahogany, which in those days was real veneer and solids. So much later on was photofaked imitating walnut.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:44 AM
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Looking in the back of the PacBel: that plywood box holding up the CRT seems like overkill. Suppose there's nothing "in" the box? Could have been done with just a strut or two.
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