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Old 11-12-2008, 03:13 PM
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How do I get THIS out of a cabinet???

I am interested on buying this REALLY BEAT UP Admiral set. But as the pictures show, and the seller confirmed, it has PLENTY of spots of paint in it's cabinet. Is it possible to remove those spots, without damaging the bakelite???
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:54 PM
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I am interested on buying this REALLY BEAT UP Admiral set. But as the pictures show, and the seller confirmed, it has PLENTY of spots of paint in it's cabinet. Is it possible to remove those spots, without damaging the bakelite???
I don't think you'll have a problem. Bakelite, being a thermosetting resin, is very chemical resistant. I've used Nitromethane to remove superglue without any dulling and paint thinner doesn't seem to bother it.

You'll need to know what kind of paint it is though before deciding on how to remove it.

I've not tried this but:

http://www.theoldradiofixerupperguy.com/repairdemo.html

shows how he removes paint. I believe the dull surface that is left is the original surface before painting. It needs to be a bit dull for the paint to adhere.

But, take my advice on anything at your own risk.

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Old 11-12-2008, 04:17 PM
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Finding what type of painting is on that set might be a problem, I think.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:26 PM
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Try several different paint removers on an inconspicuous area near the back or bottom of the set. After you get the paint off, you might wanna try going over the bakelite w/an automotive rubbing/polishing compound, followed by a couple of applications of pure carnauba wax. Again, test ANY cleaners/waxes on a small unnoticable area. But I've cleaned up Bakelite w/my method, & its a LOT of work & elbow grease involved, but the cases I've done positively GLOW.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:13 PM
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You could probably just scrape it off with a razor blade if it's on a flat surface.
Citri Strip won't hurt Bakelite either, I used it to strip the paint of an RCA Alice In Wonderland player with no ill effects.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:32 PM
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I need to correct my post. Bakelite is chemical resistant because it is a phenolic resin, not because it is thermosetting. There are many thermosetting resins that are not very chemical resistant.

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Old 11-13-2008, 02:15 AM
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The paint removal wont be an issue as i've cleaned up worse bakelite cabinets than this. Most stripper products will safely remove the paint spots. Any left over dull spots will polish up well with car wax as long as they dont go deeper than the top surface. Severely dull and scratched bakelite can sometimes be cured by giving it a coat of clear enamel providing its completely clean of dirt and oil residue. The bigger issue to me would be the broken escutcheon on the front with missing pieces. They didnt make many of this particular model with the built in am radio and replacing that escutcheon would be nearly impossible. Luckily it still has one complete side that you might be able to cast in reverse and paint to match, but that would still be a challenge. Admirals from this era are good sets and easy to restore if your able to get past the cosmetic restoration issues. As far as removing the chassis from the cabinet, this is an all in one chassis. The picture tube and chassis are attached to each other so just remove the knobs, take the chassis bolts off the bottom, remove the speaker and slide the chassis/picture tube out of the cabinet as a unit. After you do that then the picture tube bezel and glass can be removed and cleaned from taking the screws out that holds them in from inside the cabinet.
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:39 AM
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Hope I actually CAN put my hands in this TV; there's another bidder on it, and the guy does have BIG POCKETS... he spent a fortune a few days ago buying a pinball machine...

The thing that attracted me most to it, apart being a nice set, was that it was REALLY cheap. And now this other guy appeared... I find that amusing, because on the site this set is for sale there are OTHER 1950's TV sets in much better cosmetic condition than this one!!!
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:39 AM
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The attraction might have to do with it having the built in AM radio which was a rare feature on Admiral table model tv's of that era.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:17 AM
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There's still a week of auction to go on this one. So far, I am still the high bidder. Lets's hope it remains that way.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:43 AM
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Whatever you use to clean it, don't use anything containing alcohol or ammonia as they will dissolve the outer glossy layer on the Bakelite ruining the finish. As already mentioned, most strippers will work fine with Bakelite, but be sure to try in a inconspicuous spot.
Good luck on winning the set.

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Old 11-14-2008, 07:50 AM
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There's a really nice one on ebay, but they want a lot for it. No bids yet.

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Old 11-22-2008, 08:28 AM
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Hehehe... I WON!!!

Thanks to everybody who wished me luck on this one!
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:37 PM
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Congrats Captain! I think you have a diamond in the rough there. If you get the cosmetics taken care of, the rest will be easy. Keep us updated.
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