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marty59 · #1 06-08-2012, 12:05 AM

The *&%$ copper thieves got to this one unfortunately. It's a CTC-16XN but I don't have the back to confirm the model. I have never seen a seperate crt and tuner bezel of this style before with an "X" chassis. The slide away top is not common(?) for an RCA either, and the turntable is newer too. Not only is every bit of wiring either cut or missing, but they yanked the CRT socket off! All the CRT leads were bent to the side, and one is missing for the filament!!

On a better note, the tube is a small jobber rebuild and I am able to make contact with the broken lead. I'm able to apply voltage and see lit filaments. That lead though is deep down but I was able to chip away at the surrounding area creating a "pocket"...

I hope to lay it face down, and use as low as a temperature as I can and fill the pocket with solder, confirm continuity and insert a lead. I could use a third hand here so I could apply heat once only and hope for the best. There's nothing else I can think of to do....

I did clean up the other leads with some 600 grit paper and "lightly" pulled away from the neck and all the others are strong. If I'm successful then before I'd put a socket on I'll test it.

As for the chassis, wires were cut and the P/S transformer is gone and the HV cage. Somehow the Flyback surprisingly survived....

Since we've been seeing so many nice sets and styles lately I wanted to share this one that seems rather rare to me.

Charlie · #2 06-08-2012, 12:13 AM

Wow... that cabinet is really neat!! Haven't seen that style before. A real shame about the missing parts.

So you say you have the chassis... just not the tranny? What all will you need to make it complete?

robdjf · #3 06-08-2012, 12:28 AM

Wow someone doing that makes me sick.
What are your plans for it ?

marty59 · #4 06-08-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie

Wow... that cabinet is really neat!! Haven't seen that style before. A real shame about the missing parts.

So you say you have the chassis... just not the tranny? What all will you need to make it complete?

I can't get the chassis pix to upload at the moment but just to tell you what all is gone..

Convergence assembly, yoke, yoke wiring, CRT socket with wiring, purity rings, blue lateral assy, no under CRT controls or bracketry, no wiring between tuner and chassis, no HV cage or 6BK4 shelding, one damaged woofer and tweeter (from yanking the wires off), antenna terminals, no wiring for any of the audio components......

ChrisW6ATV · #5 06-08-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by marty59

I hope to lay it face down, and use as low as a temperature as I can and fill the pocket with solder, confirm continuity and insert a lead. I could use a third hand here so I could apply heat once only and hope for the best. There's nothing else I can think of to do....

I cannot remember for sure, but another member here used some kind of conductive epoxy or other substance to connect to a below-the-surface CRT pin a year or two ago. It may have been Phil Nelson, and the set may have been a Farnsworth B&W one.

UPDATE: Here is his discussion:

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=251233

Good luck with it.

marty59 · #6 06-08-2012, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by robdjf

Wow someone doing that makes me sick.
What are your plans for it ?

The cabinet sides are damaged from being stood on end and dragged around like on a concrete floor.

My best hope is to salvage the CRT or keep the safety glass face if nothing else . I have a CTC16E that uses most of the same chassis parts so I may at least keep that. The rest I'll post when available in the classifieds.

It's a shame it ended up this way but at least I can part it out with dignity and it can serve others!

marty59 · #7 06-08-2012, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV

I cannot remember for sure, but another member here used some kind of conductive epoxy or other substance to connect to a below-the-surface CRT pin a year or two ago. It may have been Phil Nelson, and the set may have been a Farnsworth B&W one.

Chris, I remember something about that too and I dug around the posts with no luck finding it. Maybe they'll chime in....I'm open for suggestions!

Phil Nelson · #8 06-08-2012, 01:13 AM

Yes, I followed a tip from John Folsom and used silver-filled epoxy to reinforce a weak solder joint to a pin lead at the glass surface of the CRT. The TV was a Capehart-Farnsworth 661-P. Here's the thread:

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=251233

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

robdjf · #9 06-08-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by marty59

The cabinet sides are damaged from being stood on end and dragged around like on a concrete floor.

My best hope is to salvage the CRT or keep the safety glass face if nothing else . I have a CTC16E that uses most of the same chassis parts so I may at least keep that. The rest I'll post when available in the classifieds.

It's a shame it ended up this way but at least I can part it out with dignity and it can serve others!

If you decide to part it out sometime I am looking for some tweeters. I have a post in the classifieds. Just a thought I dont want to sound pushy.

Kiwick · #10 06-08-2012, 03:45 AM

you're lucky as most copper thieves here actually chop the CRT's neck off to get the yoke... and they often also smash the speakers' magnets away (i don't understand what they need them for)

mstaton · #11 06-08-2012, 04:18 AM

They want the copper wire in the voicecoil.

snelson903 · #12 06-08-2012, 05:27 AM

just think they problely didnt even get 10.00 worth of copper out of there,but did a priceless amount of damage ,it would be nice to ever be around before a scrapper does something like that so you could through them 20.00 and tell them to get lost !

hi_volt · #13 06-08-2012, 07:44 AM

Too nice of a set to part out.

I'd be looking for a replacement chassis etc. from a less desirable cabinet and try to do a restore

ctc17 · #14 06-08-2012, 08:45 AM

I am starting to understand the copper thing. Some people are really hurting, I am seeing record numbers of 20 somethings living in their car. Homeless camps everywhere. Once you fall that low its almost impossible to get back up.
Is they can cash in a few yokes and ger a few dollars for some junk food from the liquor store they will. People with no future could care less about a vintage tv from the past

Charlie · #15 06-08-2012, 11:12 AM

I went out in the garage and looked... I knew I had a bunch of RCA chassis that I saved from the old TV shop in Port Arthur... but come to find out they are all CTC15 chasis... four of them (and one has the remote control receiver on it). If one of them had been a 16, you could have used the power tranny and other parts from it. I guess that means all the yokes I have are from 15's as well.

Disappointing... that is such a groovy cabinet!