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Old 01-29-2013, 04:28 PM
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Need help finding a Sam's number, Pilot TV-164

Picked up a Pilot TV-164 over the weekend but can't find anything on it. It has a 14 +/- Rectangular Sylvania CRT. which tested good to 5.7 on my BK 465.
I couldn't see any marking on the CRT other than the Sylvania label on the cap. Does Sam's Photo Facts cover this set? I came across some references to JC Penny in the Pilot listings. Did JC Penny sell Pilot?


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Old 01-29-2013, 04:59 PM
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Your set is covered in Riders Volume 6. According to the schematic for the TV-164 it actually has a 16 inch tube.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:09 PM
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Thanks Steve. I'll check it out. Can this be found online somewhere as a free download?

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:57 AM
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Still haven't found the Riders vol 6 online anywhere. Can someone direct me?

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:35 AM
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Other than the few scans over at the ETF(http://www.earlytelevision.org/tv_sc...s_postwar.html), I'm not aware that Riders TV are available online. The large format is a little difficult for most of us to scan. And if you shrink the pages down to a normal 8 1/2 x 11 they get real difficult to read.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:59 AM
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I just happen to have Rider's 6 out and open at this time and the means to scan in large format. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it in a few days.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:33 PM
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With the plentiful digital camera (and mobile phones with cameras) one can often take a picture of the page and it works well. However printing it on large format.. that is another thing.
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I'll ask Tom Albrecht to scan it and we will add it to our site.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:06 PM
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I was able to scan it today so let me know if you would like it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:46 AM
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Thanks to everyone for the attention to my request. Tom Albrecht scanned it and sent it to me in an email. Very readable. I haven't seen this particular set on line anywhere making it an interesting find. The CRT tested very good. If the Schematic is correct the CRT is a 16TP4 or 16KP4.

When I tested it earlier on my B&K 465 I had emissions at 5.7 which is one of the better CRTs that I've found lately but to be on the safe side I had the G2 setting at 250. Now that I know the correct settings for this CRT I can see that the G2 setting is 300 so the emissions should be even better.

When I measured it with a tape measure about 14 inches were showing so that's probably right. Very early rectangular tube 5, 1954. The set was licensed under RCAs pattents. Should be an interesting set to restore and watch.

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/093/1/16TP4.pdf
http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/127/1/16KP4.pdf

I guess Sylvania made this CRT also at some point.


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