Just Radios

[maxhifi]

Anyone ever order caps from them? I like their excel spreadsheet, it looks much less of a pain in the ass than ordering parts one by one from mouser or digikey.

[Kamakiri]

I used to at one time, but I order from www.capacitorworld.net now. Much better prices.

[maxhifi]

Man you're not kidding good prices, but there's no word as to who makes them. That 220uf 450V capacitor for $0.85 is a total bargain... I may buy a load of them to beef up the power supplies in my audio equipment! Usually I like to order from Mouser or digikey, and buy brand name caps like Panasonic or Nichicon, but I am investigating alternatives with a more convenient ordering process.

[Kamakiri]

Chinese made, but I have had some Nichicons in the mix. I've restored at least a dozen TVs and probably more radios with caps from there....never a performance issue.

Dwight wrote up a review of the caps from Capacitor World as well:

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=260962

They're also a sponsor of AudioKarma too

[maxhifi]

At these prices I may as well dig into half a dozen AA5 radios I have hanging around with old caps. I think I will do just radios for the predicta, because I do not want to remove the main board a second time under any circumstances, plus they also sell resistors, but capacitor world looks like a good way to recap all my old radios on the cheap.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by maxhifi

At these prices I may as well dig into half a dozen AA5 radios I have hanging around with old caps. I think I will do just radios for the predicta, because I do not want to remove the main board a second time under any circumstances, plus they also sell resistors, but capacitor world looks like a good way to recap all my old radios on the cheap.

The prices look too good to be true!
I'm going to order a mess tommorow morning for the two projects I'm working on, plus some spares.

[Gregb]

I really like the quality of the caps Just Radios sells, I have bought thousands from them. I have never had any issues with them, plus they are Canadian so I like to try and support my country.

Gregb

[maxhifi]

Originally Posted by Gregb

I really like the quality of the caps Just Radios sells, I have bought thousands from them. I have never had any issues with them, plus they are Canadian so I like to try and support my country.

Gregb

Sold - I am in Edmonton too. Basically what had me is the spreadsheet, it's just 100 times easier than going back and forth to catalogue pages and online shopping carts like on Mouser or Digi Key.

[Kamakiri]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

The prices look too good to be true!
I'm going to order a mess tommorow morning for the two projects I'm working on, plus some spares.

I usually order the common .1, .01, .001 and .047 and .0047 in quantities of 20 each. I stock at least a half dozen .47, .022, .0022, and .22 also.

For electrolytics, I stock a half dozen each of 10uF @ 450 , 22 uF @ 450, and 47 @ 450. Whenever I need an oddball .015 or .033 or something, I always order two more than what I need so I have them for the next rodeo.

This way, I can plop a set up on the bench at any given point and have most if not all the values right at hand. I also have a 1 watt resistor assortment I bought on eBay, and I ended up getting a mangled mess of NOS resistors from my buddy Al that he got from someone that was clearing out junk. I sorted every one out into a resistor cabinet.

I've got a good stock of wirewound and ceramic resistors too. Some leftover from projects or sets that were beyond repair, some from that same box that I got the resistors out of.

[stusnyder]

I started out ordering their capacitor and resistor kits, Then ordered from them when my stash gets low. I've been using them for about 4 years. I only go to mouser when just radio's don't have something I need. Or I just stop at moyers.

[Findm-Keepm]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

I used to at one time, but I order from www.capacitorworld.net now. Much better prices.

Not for quantity buys - I stock up.

Mouser ( for Panasonic ECQ's I use):

.047 uf, 630V, 100 ea @ 0.176 - 17.60 ECQ-E6473KF

capacitorworld - 100 ea @ .24 - 24 dollars for CBB(?) caps, plus 3 dollars shipping.

Even with shipping, Mouser beats him by dollars, and I get quality Panasonics.

I got burned by the Chinese caps early on - I had two of those ETR caps short in a GE B/W set, so I went back to Orange Drops. CDE has now moved all production of Orange Drops to China, so I went back to my old favorite Panasonics once Mouser started stocking them. For years, you had to go to Digi-Key for Panasonic caps, and they got pricey and had odd minimums for some values (32 pieces minimum for most sub - .01uf caps, for example.). With Mouser stocking them now, I turn to them for my quantity needs. My last buy in January came to just under 40 dollars, and I got 100 .082's and about 60 (low voltage, 25/35/50V) Electrolytics - all Panasonic FR series - my favorite FC and FM types are getting harder to find in stock.

Next up on my plate is my brother's Zenith Porthole combo that will see almost all Panasonics - I still have a few hundred older Orange Drops to use. I may be getting ahead of things - I haven't checked the CRT yet....

YMMV, but I'm not a fan of those no-name cheap caps.

[maxhifi]

I just put in the order to just radios for my Princess. I went with their "orange dip" capacitors for most of the papers, and some micas for the network capacitors. I also ordered a whole lot of resistors, and some electrolytics.

I would have gone for Mouser, but the excel form which just radios has, allowed me to input the whole bill of materials very rapidly. I started doing the same with Mouser and the Panasonic caps, but it seems like every second value has to come from another series and another catalog page, and way too much clicking back and forth - I wanted to get everything ordered as rapidly as possible, and found just radios to be easier.

I think i will try that really cheap supplier for an easier to work on TV. I have a Sharp made RCA New Vista 12" portable which seems like the perfect place to try some of the el-cheapo caps.

[Kamakiri]

Originally Posted by Findm-Keepm

My last buy in January came to just under 40 dollars, and I got 100 .082's and about 60 (low voltage, 25/35/50V) Electrolytics - all Panasonic FR series - my favorite FC and FM types are getting harder to find in stock.

Next up on my plate is my brother's Zenith Porthole combo that will see almost all Panasonics - I still have a few hundred older Orange Drops to use. I may be getting ahead of things - I haven't checked the CRT yet....

YMMV, but I'm not a fan of those no-name cheap caps.

What the heck are you using such a high quantity of .082's in? That's a really odd value. Just curious.....

As far as quality of the cap, I'm not convinced that it's anything more than a perception thing. Capacitor technology has been evolving for the last hundred years or so, and I'd be interested to know what makes one cap better than another here in the modern world. As in, cap A can do this while cap B can't. Perhaps for industrial applications or things that we'll never see in what we repair. Mouser has specs ad nauseum to this effect, but I can't see any real-world difference in TV and radio applications.

I've been in the auto parts industry for 27 years. Probably sold 100,000 brake rotors in my life. I'll be celebrating my 20th anniversary as an Acura dealership employee in October. I've sold every kind of brake rotor there is. In a real world application, I've never seen one last significantly longer than another. Of course people will argue this, but that's my experience, and anything different is based more on perception than anything else.....or other factors such as quality of the brake pads used or lack of lubrication on the caliper slides. Cheap ones, OEM ones, it's all metal. Pads, huge difference.

To stay on track though, I don't wanna argue about that point in this thread, we can do that in another if anyone really wants to

Now I'm not *pro* one cap versus another. I'm all for being convinced otherwise, and I'm not taking a hard line stance on the issue. I just haven't seen any reason not to use any specific "brand" of cap.

[Findm-Keepm]

Originally Posted by maxhifi

I just put in the order to just radios for my Princess. I went with their "orange dip" capacitors for most of the papers, and some micas for the network capacitors. I also ordered a whole lot of resistors, and some electrolytics.

I would have gone for Mouser, but the excel form which just radios has, allowed me to input the whole bill of materials very rapidly. I started doing the same with Mouser and the Panasonic caps, but it seems like every second value has to come from another series and another catalog page, and way too much clicking back and forth - I wanted to get everything ordered as rapidly as possible, and found just radios to be easier.

I think i will try that really cheap supplier for an easier to work on TV. I have a Sharp made RCA New Vista 12" portable which seems like the perfect place to try some of the el-cheapo caps.

With Mouser, I just type "ECQ" in the search box, choose capacitors, choose Panasonic, and choose the voltage. I always choose 630V, as the caps are small, and replacing a 200 or 400 volt cap with a smaller 630 just makes sense. After choosing 630 volts, all of the ECQ caps are displayed (.001 to 2.2uf), and I CTRL-click the values I need, apply the filter, and have one page of parts I am ordering. I've always ordered from a laptop, and cannot speak about ordering from a phone or tablet - dunno why anyone would even try, with so much info, it's important to get the whole screen in one shot.

For electrolytics, I do have to filter a bit more, as they have more than one physical size for some value/voltages. This is key when replacing caps on a circuit board - too tall, or too fat, and it won't fit.

For Canadians, Future Electronics has LOTS of caps, and at good prices. They, like Mouser, deal with OEMs and distributors and offer the best quantity prices for stuff. I used to get Nichicon film caps from them until Mouser started up with the Panasonics. The Nichicons are in my CTC-16 and my 721TS.

BG Micro in Texas also got some business from me lately - fast shipping too. I ordered from them way back in 1995 (catalog) and found them again on the web when looking for a MOSFET - they beat everyone else on that, even the Counterfeit Chinese Peddlers on eBay.


Cheers,

[Findm-Keepm]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

What the heck are you using such a high quantity of .082's in? That's a really odd value. Just curious.....

As far as quality of the cap, I'm not convinced that it's anything more than a perception thing. Capacitor technology has been evolving for the last hundred years or so, and I'd be interested to know what makes one cap better than another here in the modern world. As in, cap A can do this while cap B can't. Perhaps for industrial applications or things that we'll never see in what we repair. Mouser has specs ad nauseum to this effect, but I can't see any real-world difference in TV and radio applications.

I've been in the auto parts industry for 27 years. Probably sold 100,000 brake rotors in my life. I'll be celebrating my 20th anniversary as an Acura dealership employee in October. I've sold every kind of brake rotor there is. In a real world application, I've never seen one last significantly longer than another. Of course people will argue this, but that's my experience, and anything different is based more on perception than anything else.....or other factors such as quality of the brake pads used or lack of lubrication on the caliper slides. Cheap ones, OEM ones, it's all metal. Pads, huge difference.

To stay on track though, I don't wanna argue about that point in this thread, we can do that in another if anyone really wants to

Now I'm not *pro* one cap versus another. I'm all for being convinced otherwise, and I'm not taking a hard line stance on the issue. I just haven't seen any reason not to use any specific "brand" of cap.

...um....price and availability? If I know the price is lower, and the parts are available, why not a name brand? Quality aside, who makes the caps justradios sells? I've had it with no-name electrolytics. Either tell me who makes them, or I'll go elsewhere. I'm no audiophile either, and don't care if it's a Lelon, Nichicon, Nippon-Chemicon, Panasonic, or Xicon - like brake pads -price is key.

As far as the .082s, I was restocking, I was replacing caps in an empty drawer. I last used some .082s on an Athena Triac controller for an industrial freezer. A friend works at a food distribution warehouse (they're big here - with all the commercial and Navy customers) and he watched a guy replace the controller, and figured it could be repaired as it had only a dozen or so parts. I got it, rigged up a 220 supply, only to have the fuse blow. Two .082uf caps later, it was working. The originals were shorted 600V Thomson-CSF box caps, and I replaced them with two 600V orange drops. His boss is happy to have a spare.

I order caps about twice a year - I've got probably 2-3 thousand film caps at the ready. I use the typical values like anyone else, but have the odd values as well. Need a 4.32uf axial 100v flm cap? Me neither, but they came in an eBay lot with some fuses, so I have them. Methinks they were telephone company stuff....

Acura and Honda - good stuff! My first car was a '74 Civic, and my last new car purchase was an Accord - still have it! HONDA - Had one, now driving another!

Cheers,